Throughout their albums, they have worked up to creating a sound that stands out, with hints of atmosphere fused with progressive death metal and some of the most aggressive vocals, with a cherry of cleans on top.
We caught up with the band to talk about what makes the new album the way it is, streaming compared to buying real copies and the reason why guitarist Neil should be the president of Earth. This is part 1 of a 2 part in depth interview with Krysthla.
Kat joined by Adi Mayes (vocals), Carl Davis (bass), Liam Turland (drums), Noel Davis (guitar) and Neil Hudson (guitar/vocals)
The response you have been getting regarding the new album has been phenomenal so far, how are you finding it?Liam: it’s been really positive which is great because it has been in the pipeline for quite a long time, we’ve been sitting on it for almost a year just doing the tweaks and perfecting it but we’re really happy with it and so far everyone seems to be along the wavelengths of how happy we are with it, which is great.
Adi: the single we’ve released, Zero Sum Game, has had a REALLY good response and everyone has had positive things to say, we’re always excited to play it and see people headbanging to it.
Your album peaked at number 2 in the Amazon rock/metal charts, just below Slipknot. How does this feel, and did you expect this?Adi: We wanted to beat Slipknot. It’s a really excellent response, we had a little break between albums so obviously people don’t see or hear about you so much when you’re not releasing new stuff, so to have that response when we finally did put it on Amazon blew our minds.
Carl: It would have been nicer to go one higher than Peace in our Time because that got to number two, so we’re stuck at two, but there’s always some bastard in front of us.
Adi: As if they are multi million selling buggers as well
Carl: Yeah, just like a tin pop band like Slipknot, I mean really haha
We keep hearing that rock and metal music is dying out, what would you say to this?Carl: I don’t think it’s dying out no, there’s loads of music
Adi: Music goes in circles, it has a peak point and a low point, and I think we are somewhere in between it and I think its on the way back up
Carl: There are loads of bands so if there’s loads of bands then it can’t be dead, and I think there’s more bands now than I’ve ever known in the scene. Everybody has got a guitar, everybody wants to play, everyone is out trying to get shows. The biggest problem is that people want live music, but they don’t want to go and support it and that’s an issue. The question is, how do you solve that problem, and answering that question is like curing cancer
Adi: I think we’re starting to see a steady rise in punters through the door though, you know, you need to get out there and push yourself. If you really wanna do it you need to be out there the whole time, pushing, to where you build up a scene. Bands are doing it, such as Conjurer, so there is hope and that is a reason to think that people can go higher and bigger, so I think metal is doing just fine, thank you very much!
What are your views on streaming compared to the good ‘old’ fashioned ways of buying physical copies?Neil: I still prefer the physical copies. I’ll use Spotify to check something out to see if I like it, so if a new album comes out, I’ll think “do I like it?” and then if I do like it, I go straight to the record shop and buy it, because the CD’s sound so much better
Adi: That’s exactly what I’m like, as a punter I like to check out bands on Spotify because you can obviously check out as many as you like, then the ones you really really like I like to go out and buy their CD’s. You then get the full quality, there’s no mp3 sound differences, CD’s are still the best sound quality you can get. I think it’s got its place, everything has got its place, vinyl as well, or even tapes.
Carl: it doesn’t matter if we like the streaming or not, it’s there, that’s the industry, that is what you’ve got. If you don’t like Chinese food don’t eat at Chinese restaurants, so you wanna be in a band you have got to accept that that’s part of the deal these days. All that social media, it’s all something you’ve just got to do.
Noel: It is a poison chalice as far as I’m concerned but you’ve got to roll with the times, if that’s what happens. Although it does give you a platform to reach many many more people rather than it just being pot luck and hope that somebody picks your CD up in a shop and goes “Yeah I’ll buy that”. It does open up your music to everybody around the world. The biggest problem is, a lot of people don’t want CD’s because they take up too much room. There’s the faff of carrying them around, that everybody then just wants to rip the mp3 and when ripping the mp3 what you’re actually doing is de-valuing the musical content that’s on there because the bands don’t get the money that they would do if they had bought the CD. So, in one respect, you’re building a bigger fan base but you’re also robbing from the industry at the same point, so you can strangulate something that otherwise would be fine. If everybody streamed then bought the CD, the money would be back in the music industry. I think people now moan that it costs £800 to see Metallica for a ticket, but if you’re all of a sudden going from buying £10, £13 for an album and you can get it for £4 on certain sites then the band has to make that money back, otherwise the bands cease to exist.
Liam: there’s something about just going into a store and picking up an album
Neil: When I’m president of Earth, albums are gonna be active online for streaming for 2 weeks only, if you don’t access it in that time and think “Yeah I like that” then go buy it, gone. I just have to be voted president of earth first.
Adi: If Boris gets in, mate, you can easily do it!
Carl: you don’t need to be voted for anything mate, you just say you are and just do it.
Neil: I’m president of the Earth, everyone listen to this: go and buy the physical now because I’m gonna take Spotify offline somehow
The new song you recently released, “Zero Sum Game” has a bit of a deep meaning behind it, can you go into more detail about what it represents?Neil: It’s not a particularly unique subject, a lot of bands cover life and death in general, you know what I mean. But I am a little mystified about the whole idea of every second that you are alive is one less left, every heartbeat you have is one less you’ve got in the tank and you never know where that finish line is. I’ll look at my little’un and see her hurtling through this life, I mean she’s only 8, and she’s got no idea what’s around the corner in life, none of us do. You live your life and you make all these plans, and then real life hits out of the blue, all your plans are gone, and that’s real life, not what your plans are.
Adi: The obsession of buying things needs to be forgotten about. Its doing things, seeing things, experiencing things in life.
Neil: People don’t live enough. We think we do but having luxuries isn’t living, really, it’s nice to have and makes you feel cool for a bit. This is our experience, you have families and all that rubbish but when you’re in a band and you go places and its something you’ve all achieved, and you find yourself in the middle of bloody Estonia or something and think “how the hell did playing a few riffs get me to Estonia”
Adi: You go from being in a studio singing songs to your mates and before you know it you’re floating around the world playing to people you would have never met. It’s a world of opportunities and you should grab as much of it as you can.
Noel: Don’t have children apparently
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